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The Truth cannot be said, and it can be heard, sensed, and resonate within and without.
Links to the talks and interviews Paul mentions in this audio recording:
Dr. Steven Greer
https://youtu.be/oHxGQjirV-c
Tony Parsons- interviewed by Ian McNay, ‘The Open Secret’, Part 1-5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FBFX39uEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP98G4vk_lE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwSBPyBmdko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3w_4EPa288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXBW7cooH7I
Alan Steinfeld interviewing Jim Newman
https://youtu.be/jaHRGC18Bb8
https://youtu.be/QZ7K0uErSiQ
Transcript:
Greetings dear friends.
I’ve had some extra interesting videos sent to me recently that I would like to share with you. So, after this recording, I will post the sites. So if you feel to, you can check them out for yourself. I find them extra interesting.
The first one I’ll mention is not uplifting, absolutely not uplifting. It’s by Steven Greer and it’s called “How the secret government works. The most explosive exposé.” And it is shocking. What Steven describes is his experience of being inside the government’s secrets societies.
Now, of course we don’t know. We don’t know anything about what is and what isn’t. But what he describes, to me, is a compilation of things I’ve been reading for years about what’s really happening in the government beyond the government’s secret societies, extraterrestrials and very advanced technologies that are not being released ’cause it’s not convenient for the people that make money out of such things.
So, it is a shocking video. And I think we all ought to watch it just to get a feeling of where we are and what’s really going on, because what we were told is just a veneer of what’s really happening. I’ll send out that. You’ve got to be pretty devoted to watch it ’cause it’s three hours fifty minutes. I sped through bits. But still even although I’m not really into these things now, I found it fascinating ’cause it added it up to things that resonated with me. I feel, “Yes, it does feel as though that is happening.” So that’s one of the things that was sent.
But the most interesting things that have been sent is an old interview with Iain McNay and Tony Parsons. I think it was done in nineteen-ninety-nine or something like that. And Tony Parsons has had…, and then we can’t say it because there are no words for what’s happened for him, but we will call it an awakening.
And from referring to my own…, again there’s no words, because I was going to say experiences, but there’s no such thing as an experience. From here on, it gets very abstract. So Iain is getting Tony Parsons to talk about something that can’t be talked about. So, we get from Lao-tzu, “The truth cannot be said. If it’s said, it’s not the truth.”
My experience of that is, as I’ve written before, is yes, it can’t be said and it can be heard. And I think this is what Tony tries to explain as well. It can’t be said and if you’re in the presence of somebody who’s in what we’ll call ‘the state’, the resonance that is so strong in that person can activate that place that’s in us. Now, what everybody says that goes into this state, they’re saying, “Thou art that.” Jesus says, “The Kingdom of God is within.” So, we are all everything there is to be.
And then, we seem to be conscious of certain levels of that: some people more conscious, some people less conscious. Some people in Satori Groups and some people on certain drugs for a while have what is called ‘a Satori’, an awakening. And in that state, when they try to describe it, they say similar things to the masters, to Jesus, “There isn’t any time. There is only one.”
In these interviews, the interviewers are attempting to get the person that’s in that state to describe it. And the person that’s in the state says, “It can’t be described, because when it’s described, it’s described from the mind, and the mind only works in duality, and this state has no duality.” In the East we get the phrase ‘neti, neti’, not this, not that, or it can be interpreted, it is this and that.
So it’s no good trying to follow this with the mind. But this interview with Tony Parsons is fascinating, because he is such a sweet, lovely, playful being that he makes the state very desirable. And of course he says, “If you desire it, you can’t get it.” [Laughing] But it’s absolute worth watching. It’s in four ten minute parts. So that’s Tony Parsons’ “The Open Secret” and I will post the details of that.
And then, there’s another one with Alan Steinfeld “The Ultimate None-Dual Teaching with Jim Newman, simply this” and that’s in two parts. I’ll post that as well.
He’s saying the same thing in a different way, which is interesting you know, because in a way they’re saying, “There is only one.” They’re not even saying there is only one, because one is different from two. There is only this none explainable thing. And yet, both these people appear to be in the same place. Both Tony and Jim Newman seem to be attempting to describe the same thing. And yet, they’re two totally different people describing in totally different ways. So, I find that interesting.
Another thing I found interesting with them is, I’ve had things, have things, are having things in my life that I can’t describe to myself through my mind. So, when I hear it from somebody else, it’s like, “Oh, yes!” And what I’ve done in the past and still do in a way is when there is something like that I go, “Well, where have I read something about that? Where have I heard something about that?” And it’s from the masters of the East. And again, what they say cannot be understood.
So, when you’re listening to Tony Parsons, if you can, just sit. And as I say so often, don’t agree, don’t disagree, don’t believe, don’t disbelieve. Just sit and listen and something may resonate in you, because it’s there, everything’s there. Everything is everywhere and nowhere. So, just sit and see if you resonate with something.
What happens with me is, when something resonates, I immediately want to understand it with my mind and then it’s gone, because the mind cannot connect with anything that is non-dual. The mind either can only connect with something that is or isn’t, the past or the future. In the moment, as you’ll hear these people say, “There is only this moment.”
Now, I know to the mind that doesn’t make sense, does it? You can remember the past. You can see possibilities for the future. And yet, they and all the masters of the East say, “There is only this moment.” And of course, that’s what Eckhardt keeps saying over and over, “Just this moment.”
So you could experiment with that. Even if it is just a few minutes each day … be here now … in this very moment … just the way it is … now.