Krishnamurti says:
“If we have no beliefs with which the mind has identified itself, then the
mind, without identification, is capable of looking at itself as it is –
and then, surely there is the beginning of the understanding of oneself.”
Using our normal way of describing, my experience is,
at this point it is realised that, there isn’t anybody we can call
‘oneself.’
“Doesn’t have a point of view, knows not where he’s going to…”
Beatles.
When I am sharing with anyone there is always a place in them where
they compare what I am sharing, with what they think they already know.
They agree or disagree. And if they agree, they think they have understood.
(If you understand this – then you have not ‘got it.)
In my experience, ‘The State’ connote be ‘understood.’
Even though there is an awareness of ‘It’ – I cannot describe it – even to
myself. I had used to think that the masters of old could, but then reading
my favourite, Loa Tzu, he says things like:
“The truth cannot be said, and if it is said, it is not the truth.
And my favourite of his:
“Everyone seems so certain, and I walk as though upon thin ice.”
And the Zen saying: “Not knowing is the most intimate.”
When I am sharing with someone I can feel the place in them that is
comparing, and thus missing the frequency of the vibration that
is being shared.
It cannot be understood. And most frustrating – it cannot be ‘done.’
Even though the mind is included, it is not of the mind.
The mind does not have the capacity.
It can be sensed – but not with the senses.
You could experiment – to see if you identify this place in yourself.
We all have a place ‘where we come from.’ We think it is ‘us.’We call it
‘ourself’ It is defensive. Contracted.
“When you become as a little child.”
Not knowing. Open. Gently curious.
If you allow yourself to expand into this state, disconnecting from any
identification that you call yourself:
“Leaving your father, mother, sisters, brethren, wives and children”
your job, house, what you think you know and do not know, ambition,
approval – you will find that you cannot identify a self.
And you will feel absolutely free – and absolutely – Wonderful!
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J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life:
If we had no belief, what would happen to us? Shouldn’t we be very frightened of what might happen? If we had no pattern of action, based on a belief -either in God, or in communism, or in socialism, or in imperialism, or in some kind of religious formula,
some dogma in which we are conditioned -we should feel utterly lost, shouldn’t we?
And is not this acceptance of a belief the covering up of that fear- the fear of being
really nothing, of being empty? After all, a cup is useful only when it is empty;
and a mind that is filled with beliefs, with dogmas, with assertions, with quotations,
is really an uncreative mind; it is merely a repetitive mind. To escape from that fear
– that fear of emptiness, that fear of loneliness, that fear of stagnation, of not arriving,
not succeeding, not achieving, not being something, not becoming something –
is surely one of the reasons, is it not, why we accept beliefs so eagerly and greedily?
And, through acceptance of belief, do we understand ourselves?
On the contrary. A belief, religious or political, obviously hinders the
understanding of ourselves. It acts as a screen through which we look at
ourselves. And can we look at ourselves without beliefs? If we remove
these beliefs, the many beliefs that one has, is there anything left to look at?
If we have no beliefs with which the mind has identified itself, then the
mind, without identification, is capable of looking at itself as it is – and then,
surely there is the beginning of the understanding of oneself.